But the odd jobs they did led to their biggest break.
He had not known where this job was leading.
One successful job led to another and soon the agency was doing £600,000 worth of work for the company.
Bring three job leads for someone else in the group.
That job led him to build telescopes on the side.
A job with a new trail, leading away from here.
Not including resources in a print job leads to the potential problem of version control.
"You've got to stop telling me maybe this job will lead to something," she says.
The question is which job led to her death.
They bring job leads that didn't work for them, but may help others.