But what would science say in another three hundred years?

He says in 20 years he's not known a similar accident.

Say that for the first time in 86 years they have a chance to repeat?

"We have been able to cut the hospital population," he said proudly, from 500 to 300 patients in four years.

A lot of them say that maybe in five years, but the overwhelming majority felt they had found the best balance between work and family.

"We need a period of political stability," he said, after six elections at state and federal levels in four years.

"The first theme is very bad," he said in later years.

Both said in recent years that they have been unable to get a ban through Congress.

"I've never had anyone say anything negative to me personally in six years - nothing," Brown said.

At a hundred and thirty he said his first words in sixteen years.