Mr. Gray was such a good shot at 16, he says, he lied about his age to fight Hitler.

We are not fighting Hitler any more.

But a war was on, and if young men were to be asked to die fighting Hitler .

Furthermore my country was partly destroyed fighting Hitler and my people traumatised.

A resulting moral relativism, he said, rendered youth unable to muster the idealism to fight Hitler.

I stood arm in arm with pacifists, who made me wonder whether they would have fought Hitler.

They "had given their lives not for Stalin but rather in fighting Hitler," he said.

"One could only fight Hitler by remaining in the army," someone says.

Churchill's instinct to fight Hitler to the death was belligerent, but morally right.

But if you look back, they were fighting Hitler, right?