That is particularly true in the South, the participants said.

Participants said they did not know whether an agreement was possible.

Things quickly came to a head on Friday, participants said.

No more than a dozen people knew exactly what was going on at all times, participants say.

But other participants in the conference quickly said they did not agree.

Some participants say the groups provide a service above and beyond those met by other organizations.

"This thing is going to happen," several participants said they were told.

Participants say they would be totally alone were it not for the group.

Participants said the issue would be addressed at the next meeting.

Participants in those calls say the officials have promised a major effort of their own.