Initially, he went into the liquor business before starting his sausage company in 1879.
It has a major presence in the domestic wine and liquor business, with about 11 percent of the market.
But, he conceded, "the liquor business is becoming too difficult."
He opened a liquor retail business and then was a grocer.
He is also owner of a retail wine and liquor business.
Back in 1933, the idea behind the 21st was to keep gangsters out of the liquor business.
His son, Don, did not want to go into the liquor business.
And the liquor business, these experts said, would be worth about $7 billion.
But despite debate over the system and declining sales, the state is still in the liquor business.
"But hell, you wouldn't be in the liquor business," he said.