"This was an enormously important meeting with you and Director Casey," he said.

Q. When was your next meeting with Director Casey?

Director Casey sent me that finding on the 26th of November 1985.

I had already been told by Director Casey that I should be prepared to take my own life.

I felt that Director Casey was on the other side of it.

Director Casey was very enthusiastic about the whole program, and advocated it.

Did you meet privately with Director Casey that evening?

Q. Let me turn the question around, did he tell you that Director Casey knew?

Certainly with Director Casey, it was not any part of the inquiry as such, but was rather a casual conversation.

A. My guess is it was probably Director Casey.