They fight wars and they move drugs.

"It's beginning to look," Murch said, "as though Pepper was using that boat to move illegal drugs from one place to another."

"It's much more difficult for them to move drugs on the highways now or to travel in armed convoys."

The objective of this mission is to put a crimp in the way people move drugs into the United States.

"If you work in a crack area, the crack addicts will move drugs and money aside so you can go up and do your job," he said.

He moved drugs and guns between Jamaica and the United States with impunity.

El Chapo's forces are still moving drugs in volume, they said.

Initially, the tunnels were used for moving consumer goods and drugs.

Indistinguishable from the other 20-ish patrons in the bar, he said he had a day job as a furniture industry executive and was not moving drugs for the money.

Those conditions, he said, provided strong inducements for smugglers to move drugs quickly.