Yeah, and my whole point is we just joke about everything.

And he can still joke about it all, despite everything.

"I would rather you did not joke about the matter."

The two would joke about it when they saw each other.

With another woman, he would have been joking about the president.

By 1978, he was able to joke about his debate performance.

If you think it's too soon he will joke about it.

Somebody else was telling him not to joke about it.

Joking about dead family wasn't exactly the best way to win friends and influence people.

By the time of our 1996 interview he was able to joke about it.